Fly tying elk vs deer1/19/2024 ![]() Thadeus with a 10-pounder – Lake Okeechobee, Florida. ![]() Fly fishing with tournament angler Thadeus Ragan for years bears out the statistic of 3 to 1, and he manages the skiff duties while you fish. So it’s no surprise they’ll go after a mouse no matter how it gets swum day or night.īut there’s a reality check here – a good tournament angler will out-fish ordinary anglers about 3-1 fishing the same place, same gear, same time. Browns can’t seem to pass up a mouse chugging cross current in the dark.īass, the favorite species of many anglers, especially the ‘show me the money’ guys and gals that made billboard apparel popular, know that largemouth bass hit anything. That distinction might be night fishing anywhere it’s legal. The Morrish Mouse fly pattern has evolved in many ways, but with an affinity for less mess being a guide, it’s always simple with a choice of deer hair or squirrel-the former swim on the water and the latter in the water.Ĭatching trouts with mouse patterns has shown browns more vulnerable than bows when both species are known to swim in the same waters. Over time, the only thing that seems to matter is how it gets swum – whether it’s better to have the mouse fly swim ‘in’ the water or ‘on’ the water. Keeping it simple and enjoying moreįishing a mouse, vole, or shrew doesn’t, or at least hasn’t yet made a difference in my tying. The illustration provided courtesy of award winning watercolorist Thom Glace. Fortunately, there are no exotic materials, not a half dozen different materials to manage, or time too long invested in each tie. If you enjoy tying your flies, particularly watching your work get rewarded with trouts, basses, and other creatures of the salt and fresh waters pounding them, a Morrish Mouse as tied by Tim Flagler or James Spicer is right up your alley. They evolved in Europe and western Asia and are now found globally. Shoot, Joining this forum is a great step to becoming a class act and a great tyer.Brown trout was imported from Germany and introduced to North America in 1883. With some diligence and a little experimentation I am sure you'll learn and become a heckuva tyer. I suggest ya keep asking the questions and reading the answers, lookin at the step by steps and tyin the flies. I ain't gonna start on calf hair or any other mammal coat. so goes elk hair as far as structure goes. someone will probably will clarify that for me. I do believe the hollowness of the hair acts like an insulator for the deer. Coastal deer live in a much more temperate climate therefore the hair is finer and less hollow. I really like coastal deer hair for my hair wing dries because of the way coastal deer hair is. If it is a fall or winter kill then the hair will be denser, thicker and have more underfur due to the season. Another thing to consider is when the hair was harvested. it works great for streamers because it is so stiff. Buck tail is solid or at least not as hollow as body air. Thus the use of spun deer hair for bass poppers. The air is trapped inside, kind of like when you stick your straw in a soda, put your finger over the end, and pull it out where the soda stays in the straw till you let your finger off the end. it is also why deer hair has a bouyancy to it. This is done when one compresses the hair with the thread. It is the hollowness that allows us tiers to flair the hair. Bucktail is a long solid hair, whereas the body/belly hair is hollow. The difference beween the tail and the body hair of a deer is in it's composition. This is not desirable.Īll bucktails are not created equally, and all deer is not created equally for that matter.Īlrighty then, lets get down to business here. I have actually had some full bucktails that I've ordered from Orvis that have extremely short hair even at the tip, and the tip of the tail and spings like it came from the base. To date I have had great success with these for my streamers/clouser minnows and for 10 "bucks" or so you get an assortment of colors that will tie up alot of flies. I personally usually only buy natural full bucktails and the Cabelas bucktail grab-bag for my assorted colors. Bucktail is a whole other story as stated above. Body hair is the tawny brown and is speckled looking once it is dyed tends to have more underfur and less SPRING. Belly hair is white and takes dye very well so you get those BRIGHT colors. ![]() I would suggest belly for the beginner, once you get belly down for your deerhair poppers you can easily trasnfer that to less forgiving materials. Agreed I've always had best luck spinning belly hair it has a lot of spring to it.
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